Monday, February 13, 2012

What do you think of what Hugo Chavez said today in Copenhagen today?

He said- "If the climate were a bank, a capitalist bank, they [the rich countries] would have bailed it out."

Obviously since banks were bailed out without much hesitation and that still after decades of knowing that we have a major environmental problem on our hands and have done nothing about it he is correct.

What are your thoughts on what he said?What do you think of what Hugo Chavez said today in Copenhagen today?It was reported that when Chavez said “there was a ‘silent and terrible ghost in the room’ and that ghost was called capitalism, the applause was deafening. When Chavez insisted that “capitalism is the road to hell ... let’s fight against capitalism”, he “won a standing ovation”.



So he was trying to make a point, and the point is a valid one. We are capable of stepping up to the plate to protect our way of life. In this case we are unable to set aside the layer that matters the least, and matters in any significant way to a limited number of species, rather than to life on earth as a whole. It was a political gesture, an attempt to garner some publicity, perhaps, but it was something that needed to be said, that was ensured of some much-needed publicity, and I for one applaud him for saying it.What do you think of what Hugo Chavez said today in Copenhagen today?
Dana- Right now we're at an equivalent point to the early-mid 2000s when there are clear warning signs that we were going down a bad path due to insufficient regulation. Once we're at a point of inevitably catastrophic climate change, I would say using geoengineering as a desperate last ditch solution would be the equivalent of a bailout.



In both cases, conservatives tried/are trying to preserve the status quo, prevent the necessary regulation from being implemented, and eventually create the environment where the desperate measures are necessary. Dana are you actually for real, do you really believe in the stuff you write.



Gwen, bringing up Hugo Chavez.shows socialist ideals and even worse as Chavez is much more than a socialist, but a ruling dictator who will murder his own peasants. Gwen and dana are utopians, much like the those who brought this ideal onto the human landscape in the past and created carnage and death, being Hitler, Stalin, Mussolinni; all three were utopians.



OMG. Yes history shows that the rulers of England and the European empires of 1000 A.D were saying the same thing, that they needed to tax the peasants more because of global warming and the damn Irish farting to much.What do you think of what Hugo Chavez said today in Copenhagen today?That's pretty clever.



I hope he flew to Copenhagen on one of those airplanes made in a poor (not-rich) socialist country, and then rode from the airport to the meeting in one of those cars made in a poor socialist country, and then spoke into a microphone atop a podium, both of which were made in poor socialist country. Tonight I hope he will dine on fine beluga caviar and champagne from a poor socialist country and then fall gently to sleep in his poor socialist hotel room upon an elegant poor socialist mattress with soft 500 thread count socialist sheets.



Even further I hope he is reaping the technological advancements of those poor socialist countries such as vaccines, immunizations, and *gasp* electricity.



What a douchebag.What do you think of what Hugo Chavez said today in Copenhagen today?
The difference is that everyone expects the banks' loans to be paid back. Most of them have, in order to escape regulation. Money given to the governments of Third World countries will find its way into politicians' pockets, in many cases. It would have to be given with a big string attached, that it go directly to the consultants hired to do the job.What do you think of what Hugo Chavez said today in Copenhagen today?I actually quite like Hugo Chavez - I think a lot of what's said negatively about him is propaganda. I also think that some of the bankers should be lined up against the wall. The problem with all governments (left or right) these days is that they base their 'policies' on what they think will play well at the polls. He's got a point. Let's just hope he doesn't go the same way as Mugabe.



"So soon we'll find out who is the real revolutionaries;

And I don't want my people to be tricked by mercenaries."



Bob Marley, "Zimbabwe"
I think that he is just trying to get more money from rich nations and help redistribute the wealth. I mean where is the outrage that China is the #1 emitter of greenhouse gases? How about India and Russia being #3 and #4 on the list? If greenhouse gases were that important wouldn't we want to REDUCE emissions across the board and not have some Nations just reduce the rate of increase?What do you think of what Hugo Chavez said today in Copenhagen today?
It's sort of nice to hear a leader actually say what the entire AGW scam is all about. Promoting a socialist agenda and trying to destroy the most successful economic system ever developed. But why would he care, he is one of the elite.
Socialist leaders need not worry about climate problems caused from too much human progress. Look at all the GHG emission reductions that have come from the collapse of the economies that were controlled by the old Soviet Union.What do you think of what Hugo Chavez said today in Copenhagen today?
IF THE CLIMATE WERE A COUNTRY, HUGO CHAVEZ WOULD BE ITS DICTATOR.



This guy's government make s a lot of money from oil, a major source of CO2 emissions.
Nothing a precision airstrike can't take care of.
Hugo Chavez is a lunatic and someone needs to take this trash out.
he doesnt care about enviromental issues!!
it is ludicrous, he just wants money and lots of it from the west.
I don' think that's an accurate analogy. The banks didn't get bailed out until they had basically completely collapsed. While the climate is approaching a dangerous state, it hasn't gotten there yet. We're at the point where regulation can still solve the problem without having to resort to a complete bailout just yet.



Right now we're at an equivalent point to the early-mid 2000s when there are clear warning signs that we were going down a bad path due to insufficient regulation. Once we're at a point of inevitably catastrophic climate change, I would say using geoengineering as a desperate last ditch solution would be the equivalent of a bailout.



In both cases, conservatives tried/are trying to preserve the status quo, prevent the necessary regulation from being implemented, and eventually create the environment where the desperate measures are necessary.
I think Chavez, unlike the Warmist elite, is well-intentioned, but hopelessly incompetent (witness, for instance, his embrace of the genocidal global warming fraud). Such is the expected result when one adheres to Marxist economic stupidity - indeed, to any type of rigidly ideological economic stupidity. The "free market" extremists are another good example of this.



Anyways though, his statement, while true, doesn't really seem particularly relevant to anything.

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